The Common Consent Argument (CCA) for God

by Matt DeStefano on June 1, 2012

Consider what is called the “Common Consent Argument” for God’s existence:

(1) A vast majority of people believe God exist, therefore,

(2) God exists.

Historically, this argument hasn’t been taken very seriously. I haven’t seen it promoted by many theists, but I’ve seen it lurking behind many discussions between believers and non-believers. After all, if so many people have historically believed, shouldn’t this count as some sort of evidence for the truth of the conclusion?

I’m not convinced, as others might be, that this argument is an argument from popularity - or that an argument from popularity is always necessarily a fallacy. I’d like to piggyback off the discussion at Prosblogion which examines a paper by Thomas Kelly. He gives us a few scenarios in which we do treat popular opinion as evidence of the belief:

For example, if I initially believe that our recycling is scheduled to be picked
up tomorrow, but I subsequently learn that everyone else on our block thinks that the
pick-up is scheduled for today (perhaps I observe that others have already placed their
recycling bins on the curb this morning), then I will change my view. Moreover, barring
very unusual circumstances, surely this is the reasonable thing for me to do. Similarly, if I
perform some non-trivial mathematical calculation but subsequently learn that others who
performed the same calculation arrived at a different answer, then I should treat this as
evidence of my having made a mistake.

In the comment section, there are a few thought experiments being lobbied by philosophers to illicit the same response. I’d like to explore what I think are two of the most difficult problems with this argument, and there are several more explored in the post I linked to: (1) The first premise, specifically what we mean by “God” and “most people” is not at all clear and (2) The nature of the proposition is such that if the CCA is successful, it’s still not remotely convincing.

As for (1): it’s not certain here what “most people” is referring to. Does this cover all human beings of all eras? If so, the same problems that I raised in the Sensing God post rear their heads again. The monotheistic conception of God is rather new, and especially the God of the Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Does the term “God” differentiate beyond these different iterations, or does it satisfy all propositions equally?

Let’s revisit the decision to put your recycling bins on the curb when we see others doing the same. If the CCA is to be successful, then the fact that most people believe they should put their cans out this morning counts as evidence for the truth of the pick-up day changing. If I had just come home to see the rest of the bins on my block outside, I would indeed put my bin out for collection. But, at the same time, I would also wonder what information I had missed. Did the trash collection agency post a notice regarding the change in dates? Is there some holiday that I am forgetting which will cause the trash to be picked up early/late? What piece of information am I missing that others are privy too?

I’m not merely relying on majority opinion, I’m reasoning that the majority have access to a piece of evidence that I do not. Namely, that these people have either remembered a holiday, seen a notice, or been otherwise informed that the trash pick-up dates have changed. The majority opinion is not evidence by itself, it is only evidence by proxy: it indicates a gap in my own epistemic grounds for making a decision.

Another difficulty is easily illustrated by the example of performing a “non-trivial mathematical calculation”. I’ve actually had this experience as a TA for a Critical Thinking course. If you haven’t tried the Wason Selection Task, try it here. Here’s the description:

“You are shown a set of four cards placed on a table, each of which has a number on one side and a colored patch on the other side. The visible faces of the cards show 3, 8, red and brown. Which card(s) must you turn over in order to test the truth of the proposition that if a card shows an even number on one face, then its opposite face is red?”

File:Wason selection task cards.svg

In experiments in which they ask people to do this task, less than %10 of people get the correct answer. I don’t think it’s a wise idea to take the majority opinion as evidence here, and it’s primarily because of how equipped we are to answer this question. If, however, we were to use as a sample only people who have expertise in logic (and could properly spot the material condition), I would put a much higher degree of trust in the majority opinion. This distinction is key in realizing the difference between lay consensus and expert consensus.

I’m not certain that we can say that “most people” have the requisite epistemic warrant for rendering a conclusion about the existence of God. I would argue that many people haven’t done the requisite research, vetting of their own beliefs, etc. to give them the status of expertise regarding this question (this goes for both atheists and theists in general).

Overall, even if I grant Kelly his point about social knowledge, I would argue that the CCA is exceedingly weak. In the face of the extraordinary wealth of literature in psychology that shows how prone we are to confirmation bias, detecting agency, and a litany of other mistakes – I’m also worried about how sound the processes of coming to those beliefs are. We are better served by thinking of majority opinion as a guide to uncovering evidence rather than as evidence itself.

  • Thomas Larsen

    The monotheistic conception of God is rather new

    I’m curious: how do you know that?

  • http://www.soulsprawl.com Matt DeStefano

    Hey Thomas,

    It’s pretty widely accepted by ancient historians and archaeologists, but we have religions like the Serer religion in Africa, Hinduism, the Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians and we also have the Germanic/Slavic tribes, and the ancient Greek and Roman pantheons. 

    • Thomas Larsen

      Do you think human beings might have believed in one supreme God a long time before they began to record history in writing?

  • Bankszzx

    After reading this post I am still not convinced that the original arguement is not an argument from yhe falicy of popularity. Iy still seems that when you say most people you are apppealing to the notion of popularity as a reason to call somethig true or false. Regardless of ones epistemic background could you say that under conditions of any epistemic background one cannot say that “because something is popular is a justifiable reason for doing X.” Kelly’s experiment is a psycological point is it not? Meaning that it can only point to evidence about some amount of human actions. It can’t say nessearily all humans act this way, in fact it could be cultural that most people do not have the expert knowlege reqired to make a decicion about gods existence. I just dont think it fair to say they dont have epertise in the subject of their own beleif in god because they do not have training in logic. I dont have an epertise in the law or a doctorate in ethics yet i belive that my ethical and law based decicions are on based on sufficient reasons that adequately suit all my needs in those areas.

    Thanks for the post, sorry for the typo’s

    Samuel Smith

  • http://www.soulsprawl.com Matt DeStefano

    Thomas,

    It’s possible – but I haven’t come any compelling evidence to think so. I have, however, seen some Christians deny that polytheism came first because Adam and Eve were the first human beings and they were necessarily monotheistic. Of course, I’m not interested in validating religious beliefs, I’m interested in following where the evidence leads. If you have evidence that suggests otherwise, I’d be happy to read it.

    Sam,

    Thanks for replying (hope your summer is going well!). I took it not to be an appeal to the majority because I think he’s operating under the assumption that in cases like the recycling bin, we take the majority opinion as prima facie evidence. My argument is that it’s only evidence by proxy: the majority opinion alerts us to evidence we might have otherwise missed.

    So, I guess it could still be an appeal to popularity, but I think Kelly was attempting to make a deeper point about consensus and its relationship to evidence.

    I also don’t mean to suggest that people without expertise are unable to reach conclusions that are based upon sufficient reasons and evidence, but my second example was primarily used in an attempt to argue that we might take a consensus of experts more seriously than a consensus of lay people. 

    In other words, if we are going to start trusting the majority – we ought to trust a majority of experts. 

    • http://tomlarsen.org/blog Thomas Larsen

      It’s possible – but I haven’t come any compelling evidence to think so. I have, however, seen some Christians deny that polytheism came first because Adam and Eve were the first human beings and they were necessarily monotheistic. Of course, I’m not interested in validating religious beliefs, I’m interested in following where the evidence leads. If you have evidence that suggests otherwise, I’d be happy to read it.

      In your original post, you discussed the Common Consent Argument (CCA) for God—

      (1) A vast majority of people believe God exist, therefore,

      (2) God exists.

      Then you wrote,

      As for (1): it’s not certain here what “most people” is referring to. Does this cover all human beings of all eras? If so, the same problems that I raised in the Sensing God post rear their heads again. The monotheistic conception of God is rather new, and especially the God of the Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

      For this objection not to beg the question, however, wouldn’t you have to provide some evidence for the claim that “The monotheistic conception of God is rather new” that doesn’t depend on written human records? After all, if theism’s true, then probably human beings believed in God before they began to keep written historical records; and that’s quite consistent with the evidence available today for ancient polytheism, monotheism, and so on.

  • http://www.soulsprawl.com Matt DeStefano

    For this objection not to beg the question, however, wouldn’t you have to provide some evidence for the claim that “The monotheistic conception of God is rather new” that doesn’t depend on written human records?

    Prehistoric archaeology suggests we had religions that composed of: animal worship, ancestor worship, fire worship, variants of polytheism, and a host of other tribal religions. (The Wikipedia for Prehistoric religion is a good starting point.)Monotheism is exceedingly rare amongst historical religions, and unheard of among prehistoric religions.

    Even if we were to find instances of monotheism that were prehistoric, this doesn’t defeat the problem I raised in accordance to (1). If “a vast majority of people” here is both timeless and spans the globe, the evidence available to us indicates that it isn’t the case that a vast majority of that set believe in the monotheistic God.

    I think the case could be adjusted (i.e. “Most people [have] believe[d] in the supernatural”), but then the point becomes even less poignant.

    • http://tomlarsen.org/blog Thomas Larsen

      Prehistoric archaeology suggests we had religions that composed of: animal worship, ancestor worship, fire worship, variants of polytheism, and a host of other tribal religions. … Monotheism is exceedingly rare amongst historical religions, and unheard of among prehistoric religions.

      Do you think monotheists would leave behind relics that could be uncovered by archaeology? After all, the whole point of monotheism is that there’s one supreme, transcendent God; so a prehistoric monotheist wouldn’t necessarily be inclined to attempt a carved statue of God or to make religious symbols in the same way that a prehistoric polytheist might be inclined to make religious symbols and carve statues or images of her gods.

      • http://www.soulsprawl.com Matt DeStefano

        That’s terribly ad-hoc reasoning, Thomas. After all, we have relics, symbols, and statues from Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism and other monotheistic religions. I know it’s tempting to create a narrative wherein it aligns with what you’re trying to prove, but this is a stretch.

        • http://tomlarsen.org Thomas Larsen

          After all, we have relics, symbols, and statues from Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism and other monotheistic religions.

          The burden of proof is on you to establish that prehistoric monotheists living in small village tribes would likely create relics, symbols, and statues that would be preserved for and fairly widespread at the current time.

          Moreover, what makes you so confident that such relics, symbols, and statues—made by prehistoric monotheists—wouldn’t then be misinterpreted by contemporary anthropologists of religion as objects used in polytheistic religious systems?

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